'Ultimate form of government would allow for participation of as broad a swath of Syrian population'

For the first time in a decade, US diplomats are in Damascus to hold official meetings with Syria and their new de facto rulers led by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) to discuss the future of Syria’s political transition. For in-depth analysis and a deeper perspective on post-Assad Syria and the West’s efforts to open channels to HTS, and its leader Ahmed al-Sharaa, FRANCE 24’s Gavin Lee is joined by our International Affairs Editor Douglas Herbert and William Jordan, former US State Department Official previously stationed in Damascus.